Saturday, May 12, 2012

Sometimes I Feel Like Raging at Rage

For whatever reason I went off on a needy poster in the official forums:

Have to get on my soap box for a minute.

Keep in mind that no one here is a Bethesda employee. No one is obligated to read or respond to anyone else who posts here. I know you're frustrated, I've been there myself (many times), but calling someone a [censored] doesn't foster a sense of community.

*Mofakin* came off snippy but he did have a point. Many people here have taken time to read, learn, and experiment. So when someone else posts about wanting instant answers and thorough explanations, it doesn't sit well with this community. More plainly: drop the entitlement. Balok has been incredibly generous with his time and you cannot expect such help with every issue you encounter.

Wulfgar, on 10 May 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:
Nonetheless it's the same issue that prevents an NPC from jumping over a pebble. Piss poor coding.


I completely disagree with you. This game was released simultaneously on three different platforms, world-wide, on-time, with no major game play issues. On any scale or comparison that is AMAZING.

Entirely above and beyond this, they released the very tool they used to create the game to the public for free!! Name one other major game publisher that has done this. Bioware? Ubisoft? Blizzard? Square Enix? Nope.

To be brutally honest: you created the bug. You added a brand-new NPC along with a vendor stand. This "Owl Pearch Inn" is not a Bethesda-created location. You admitted to copying and thereby creating a 2nd Belethor's store. You're to blame for the NPC being confused.

That said, it's not entirely your fault. The CK doesn't have full-fledged documentation. We can't talk to the developers and/or designers to get help. But all this is part of the fun. The CK is like a new game within Skyrim. To get in there, tinker, reverse-engineer, and make the game do things your way. The whole sandbox thing. If you're not having fun doing this and "weird bugs" anger you, you should stop now. You're only going to get more frustrated.

When posting please remember: we're all in here with you. Don't take frustrations out on us. And don't look at these odd behaviors as problems. Look at them as challenges and an opportunity to learn more about how Skyrim works.

Wow, this got long. And it's not all you Ulrik. I've seen a few other similar things and your post was the proverbial last straw. I apologize for the wall of text.

ANYWAY.

Ulrik Wulfgar, on 11 May 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:
What about the merchant not showing certain items placed in her chest? To recap, I basically put Stews and Soups in there along with Bread. The bread shows, nothing else does. So to test I put a selection of armour, books and other types of food. The meats and bread show, armour and books didn't. I've tried deleting the merchant chest and creating a new one but that didn't work.

From your description it sounds like your vendor is only using recognized food items.

As *Mofakin* mentioned above, the answer is on the wiki under "Create a Faction." You'll need to add the appropriate Keywords to any custom items.

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